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What signs of colonialism are present in the first section about Rukmani before and during her early part of marriage? Remember that the British invaded and colonize India so any British or European customs, people or ideas show signs of colonialism.
Post two quotes that show the British influence.
Explain the context and how it impacts the Indian village and people in a positive and/or negative way.
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DeleteRaymond, I agree with you but I suggest you to include Colonialism and how it had an impact on the Indian village.
DeleteYou did not include how it connected to colonialism. How does power connect to colonialism?
DeleteNawal is right because the whole idea of this is about Colonizing India.
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Delete1) "A poor match," they said, and not always quietly. How little they knew, any of them" (Markdandaya 8).
ReplyDeleteThis impacts the Indian village in a negative way. Referring back to the top of page eight, this shows the rapid decline of power and wealth, of how women and now the men of the village have around no power to hold any festive parties and outings anymore because of high authority. This is negative since from the first to the last sibling, Rukmani had no choice because of colonialism which caused they're family, head of the village, to no longer have power. This is also an example of the social hierarchy; whom was once the head is now a commoner.
2) "Was the cobra surprised…For a moment my legs remained stiffly planted beside the pumpkins, then the blood came racing to my limbs again, and I ran from the spot screeching with fear and not looking behind me” (Markdandaya 18).
This impacts the Indian village and people in a negative way. This is negative because it shows a horrible living environment. It is unsafe for people to live in constant fear of dangerous and disastrous animals that live where they live; this also shows how people could die any minute. This is the places where poor live, unsanitary and unhealthy with no safe ground or protection. This shows the ranking of lifestyle where there are no options but be aware constantly, at all times.
A sign of colonialism is the decline of power in Rukmani's home village because of higher authority leaving behind no power for other people. In this case the higher authority is the British government during that certain time. Another sign of colonialism is the industrializing economy in chapter four, where they start to build a new building, the tannery, which has caused a ruckus in providing new jobs away while also tearing down village’s homes.
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DeleteJenna, i agree that chapter four is a sign of colonialism, however, it is way passed Rukmani's early years of marriage since she already has five sons and daughter when the new tannery was created. Post number one focus on before and during her early parts of marriage only.
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DeleteHow does the second quote connect to Colonialism? The quote you got is just about how the cobra impacted the village negatively. But how does the cobra relates to colonialism?
DeleteXiao, I don't think the main focus was on the cobra. The main focus was that ever since the British took over the Indian's village, they destroyed their environment, which is a negative impact on the Indians. The cobra was a small detail that hints how the British ruined the Indian's village.
Delete1. "Shanta first, a big wedding which lasted for many days, plenty of gifts and feasts, diamond earrings, a gold necklace, as befitted the daughter of the village headman." (Markdandaya 3).
ReplyDeleteThis impacts the Indian village and people in a negative way, especially in the main character's case. She and the rest of the village girls see the way Shanta's wedding went and will want to have a wedding like hers once their time comes. They may even be excpected to have a wedding like this, and that puts a lot of pressure on the girls. This is negative because the girls will feel that they can't live up to these expectations, lowering their self esteem and making them feel bad about themselves. This may even stir up some jealously in the girls, causing more of a negative impact on the village.
2. "Our relatives, I know, murmured that the match was below me; my mother herself was not happy but i was without beauty and without dowry and it was the best she could do. "A poor match," they said, and not always quietly. How little they knew, any of them!" (Markdandaya 4).
This impacts the Indian village negatively. Because of the impact of colonialism on the village, it seems that the people only value a person based on their wealth. They say that Rukami and her husband were a poor match because the husband was poor in their eyes and not worthy of Rukami. They think that because he is poor he is unsuitable to be a husband. This is negative because the women will be expected to only marry men who are wealthy.
Why do you think the girls will not live up to these expectations?
DeleteYou can clearly tell because Rukmani's father does not hold power anymore. How do you expect a girl like Rukmani to have a grand wedding if her family cannot afford it. ' my last born, my baby? Four dowries is too much for a man to bear"(markandaya 8). Weddings are very expensive. When Rukmani's father held power, the oldest daughter Shanta , had a grand wedding . Rukmani wants a similar wedding because her older sister is an influence.
DeleteYour right Nehad, but the reader does not know that. She does not explain that her father's status can affect his daughters. The statement you said is not included in that exlanation of the evidence.She does not elaborae on why they can't live up to these expectations.
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ReplyDelete1) “This was the first time I had ever heard that my father was of no consequence. It was as if a prop on which I learned had been roughly kicked away, and I felt frightened and refused to believe him. But of course he was right, and by the time I came to womanhood even I had to acknowledge that his prestige was much diminished. Perhaps that was why they could not find me a rich husband, and married to a tenant farmer who is poor in everything but in love and care for me, his wife, whom he took at the age of twelve. (Markandaya 8)
ReplyDeleteThis impacts the Indian village in a negative way. When the British invaded and colonized India, Rukmani’s father lost its power as a headman. This had caused her father to lose fame and importance to the people and his family in the village. While her father was now infamous, Rukmani soon married a poor tenant farmer at the age of twelve. This is negative because no wealthy people would want to look up to her father or his family and that is why Rukmani was chose to match with the farmer.
2) “So it was in a house of sorrow that I first met Kennington, whom people called Kenny…I had never seen a white man so close before, and so I looked up my fill.” (Markandaya, 23)
This impacts the Indian village in a positive way. Kenny, a doctor, was supporting Rukmani’s dying mother. Her mother and Kenny trust and understand each other. Therefore, when she died, he was there for her. Rukmani thinks he is different from other men. She feels that he is supportive and caring for others needs. This is positive since Kenny are willing to help others when they are facing hard times in their lives.
For your second quote, how is caring and understandable relate to Colonialism?
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DeleteI understand what you're trying to say, but you should connect it back to Colonialism and state how Kenny is a British man.
DeleteFor the second quote explain why a doctor would affect the Indian village positively in general. Why is it good to have a doctor in the village?Be more spcific. You had to connect to colonialism and state how a doctor influences the village positively.
DeleteTo Veronica, Amy, and Nawal:
DeleteSorry for the late reply. I've made a mistake of not connecting the second quote to colonialism. Therefore i would want to explain what I really meant for the second quote. Here it comes:
This impacts the indian village in a positive way. It shows that after British colonize India more white men settled in India. Kenny, a British doctor, was a perfect example of a man who came to the Indian village. He had brought people many hope since he is willing to care for others. As you can see, Rukmani's mother understands and trust him since he brought faith and to her and many people in the village. This is a positive impact of British influence because without them colonizing India, there wouldn't be doctors, such as Kenny, that brought hope and miracle to people. Also, doctors are supportive and can save many lives of others. Therefore, this is why British colonialism is a positive impact for the Indians.
Thank you, Tony, for clarification. I understand now where you were leading to. :)
DeleteNo problem. Sorry for my inconvenience!
Delete1)"There is a Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not the headman" (Markandaya 4).
ReplyDeleteThe Collector has an negative impact on village, whereas the Rukmani's father known as the chief of the village has no power at all. The chief and villagers has no power, while the Collector has all of the power and controls everything and everyone in the village. This is negative where the chief of the village has no power, and some foreigner has all the power.
2)" I got out of the cart, stiff and with a cramp in one leg. We went in: two rooms, one a sort of storehouse for grain, the other for everything else. A third had been begun but was unfinished, the mud walls were not more than half a foot high" (Markandaya 6).
This impacts the village negatively, because colonialism led to the decline of wealth, where they had to build a house made out of mud. Later in the book, Rukmani found out that the house was built by Nathan. This shows that the villagers had to build their own houses and by mud, which can't withstand harsh weather conditions. Colonialism led to villages and their people to live in poverty and live in harsh conditions.
The Collector is the chief administrative so I don't see how the "chief of the village has no power at all".
DeleteNawal, I see where you at but i think Jimmy meant that Rukmani's father was the former chief administrative and now he had lost power due to the rising of the Collector which is now the new Chief.
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DeleteAdding along to what Nawal commented, she has a point because you,Jimmy, kept on repeating of how Collector had all the power but didn't really explain afterwards.
DeleteJust like you did in the second quote, talk about how COLONIALISM had an impact on the people, and not the Collector himself. Did the Collector colonize India? Was he a part of it?
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ReplyDelete1)"It was my husband who woke me up- my husband, whom I call here Nathan, for that was his name, although in our years of marriage I never called him that, for it is not meet for a women to address her husband except for 'husband'"(Markandaya 5)
This impact of Colonialism, is Rukmani's husband's name. It is an English name, which shows the impact of colonialism. This impact is positive because, if the names of people were change into something more English, this could potentially mean that wives could address their husband by their names, since the way of addressing people has changed. This is a positive change because it could make men and women more equal to each other, as a long term effect, making this effect of colonialism, that relates to Rukmani's marriage and the village, positive.
2)"Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is a Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and his power. and to those he appoints; not to the headman"(Markandaya 4).
The headman here refers to the chief of the villages and the collector is an appointed British official. This shows a negative effect that colonialism has on the villages. The leaders of each village have no power or control and only listen to the British official. Because the Indian villages are only listening to the British and not themselves, is shows a negative effect colonialism has on the villages.
wow i really thought i was number 4....
DeleteI loved the first one a lot. And for the second one, explain who the headman is;give context. :)
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Deletei said i loved your evidence :P
Delete1) "Shanta first, a big wedding which lasted for many days, plenty of gifts and feasts, diamond earrings, a gold necklace, as befitted the daughter of the village headman. Padmini next, and she too made a good match and was married fittingly, taking jewels and dowry with her; but when it came to Thangam, only relations from our village came to the wedding and not from the surrounding districts as they had done before, and the only jewel she had was a diamond nose-screw." (Markandaya 8)
ReplyDeleteThis shows how colonialism impacted the Indian village in a negative way. Referring back to the quote, Rukmani's two sisters, Shanta and Padmini, had a fancy wedding full of jewels because they were each married to a British man. Many people were invited to their wedding, but when it came to Thangam's wedding, Rukmani's third sister, only people from the village came to her wedding and she only received one piece of jewelry, which is a diamond nose-screw. This shows a negative impact on the Indian village because Indians were minors to the British after the British invaded their village.
2)"Perhaps you are frightened at living here alone - but in a few years we can move - maybe even buy a house such as your father's." (Markandaya 10)
This shows how colonialism impacted the Indian village in a negative way. Nathan built a house with mud for Rukmani and him to live in. This shows how Nathan did not have enough money to afford a house for both of them to live in, unlike Rukmani's father. This shows a negative impact in the Indian village because Indians were in poverty; therefore, they had to build their own shelter with mud.
How did you know that the men Tangam's sister married are British? Also, how does Nathan being poor relates to Colonialism?
DeleteXiao, I think she is trying to say that due to Colonialism, people have become poor since the British have invaded them and are in power of them.
DeleteI agree with xiao's first question since the book didn't mention who is Thangnam's husband nor her sisters except rukmani's husband, Nathan , since he is the main character. By the way xiao , its Thangam not "tangam."
DeleteXiao and Tony, we can tell that they're British when Rukimani said "village headman", as she as narrating the book. The British took over the Indian village; therefore, they're in charge of the village, or the "head" of the village. In addition, when it said "ONLY relations from our own village came to the wedding and not from the surrounding districts..", this shows how only the people from the Indian village came to the wedding, so everyone who attended the village was Indian, therefore, Thangnam's husband is also an Indian.
DeleteXiao, to answer your second question, Nathan being poor does relate to Colonialism because it shows how the British took wealth from the Indians when they invaded the village.
To add on to what Amy has said, Rukimani refers to them as the "village headman" to present to the reader that the British has already colonized. Amy did not need to include this specific detail in her analysis because the book has already stated it, therefore making her ANA for the quote well done.
DeleteActually, the village headman is Indian. If you think about it, the narrator is Indian and her father is the headman.
DeleteThe Indians were no longer in charge of the village once the British invaded them.
DeleteI agree to Xiao's comment because the headmen is the authorities of India. The headmens had no more power due to the face of Britain colonizing India. You can see that on page 8 where it says, "There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman" (8). So the Collector is a British man, and it says that the headman doesn't have any power anymore. The headmen are obviously Indians
DeleteXiao, you stated in your ANA that the headman lost power. Which technically means Amy is correct. Once he lost power, the British took his place.
DeleteYes, that's correct but I was just correcting about what you said about the headman. The headman is still the leader of the village but has no power and the headman is decided by the British. But that does not mean they're British. The British people have power over the village but saying they're the headman of the village is not the right connotation.
DeleteTeresa, if the Indians are not in charge anymore, that means that the British replaced their spot.You guys are also skipping through the part where I emphasized the "ONLY" in my previous comment, which proves that my point is correct. Thank you Joshua for proving my point.
DeleteColonialism is basically claiming sovereignty over the colony, social structure and its government. If they had already colonized India, the British are allowed to intervene and replace the headman.
DeleteI get how you're saying that once Britain conquered India, the headmen who are the authorities "turn" into British men. But on page 8, you can see where it says, "Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence." The headman has no more importance. Who doesn't have any power? They're refering to the Indian's who doesn't have any power. So I thought that the headmen's were Indians. But overall I understood how you can say the headmen turn from Indian's to British men. I just needed clarification on that.
DeleteRukmani's refers the "village headman" to her father which he used to be. However, when Rukmani is narrating the book she states that the COLLECTOR,the britains, which is now the new headman of the village at this point. This part of the quote "befitted the daughter of the village headman" shows that Shanta was receiving gifts from other people because her father was the headman at that time which made his family to have fame due to his father's status for being famous. As for Thangam, people from the village where she lived in came to the wedding only. Those who are from other parts of the village or "surrounding districts" didn't come(reason is still unknown). You can tell the headman lost power when Rukumani's eldest brother said "don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the new collector, who comes too these villages once a year, and to him is power, and to those appoints; not to the headman"
DeleteTeresa and Tony, in both of your comments, there is a piece of information that is proving that my statement is correct.
DeleteTeresa, when you said "I thought that the headmen's were Indians. But overall I understood how you can say the headmen turn from Indian's to British men. ", it's basically proving my point saying how the headmen were British men.
Tony, when you said "However, when Rukmani is narrating the book she states that the COLLECTOR,the britains, which is now the new headman of the village at this point.", it's also stating how the headman of the village were Britain, or in other words, British. To add on, people from surrounding districts didn't go to their wedding because the people from surrounding districts weren't Indians, therefore, the only ones who attended Thagnam's wedding were Indians.
Teresa. If they, headmen, lost their power then the British have the right to intervene and change everything. Referring back to the definition of Colonialism, they can replace the indians from their position in the government.You basically gave your opinion on the subject which makes your claim kind of invalid. This discussion comes back to the definition of Colonialism all over again if we continue at this rate.
DeleteTony I disagree with you, because after Rukmani's brother says "don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the new collector, who comes too these villages once a year, and to him is power, and to those appoints; not to the headman", Rukmani says “This was the first time I had ever heard that my father was of no consequence.” (Markandaya 8) This quote shows that it’s not yet official that the “headman” has been changed.
DeleteTo add on to what Joshua said, this book is based off of Imperialism, which means the policy of extending the rule or authority of an empire or nation over foreign countries, or of acquiring and holding colonies and dependencies, or in other words, taking over the system of government. Going back to what Joshua said, the British have every right to take over India and change everything.
DeleteYes, I get what you're saying, but how can you infer that the headmen AUTOMATACIALLY changed from Indians to Britishmen?
DeleteAnd Joshua, I was trying to say that your point is somewhat correct, but you're infering it too much.
We're not inferring much, we're bringing outside information into this discussion, in order for us to have a better understanding of the plot of this book. If we continue debating, we're going to end up repeating everything that's said already.
DeleteMina, I want to point out that you've mistaken what the quote meant. The first quote you mention says that the new leader of the village is now the Collector. How is the headman not officially changed when Rukmani's eldest brother states that the COLLECTOR is now the one with power. I agree with Teresa because when your born an Indian, you can't change your ethnicity to British.
DeleteAmy and I are relying on definitions and context clues that were given in the book. WE have to make connections to get a better understanding of what is happening in the book. From the past comments you posted, Teresa, you contradicted yourself quite a few times.
DeleteTony, we are not stating that they are changing their ethnicity. But replacing the Indian officials with British officials.
DeleteYou can't change your ethnicity, but you can always change your leader, or head of the village. Once the British invaded India, the new leader was British. Please try not to repeat information that was said already, because this discussion is going in a circle at this moment and there's nothing new we're getting out of it.
DeleteI was not contradicting myself, Joshua. I was just saying that your point can be vaild as much as mine. Bring outside information is an excellent key to prove your point, however if you base your information using the evidence thats provide for you, it would make your arguement stronger.
DeleteIt is best to end the discussion at this point because it is taking a loop. Many are repeating themselves, and it is not going anywhere. Great discussion by the way!
DeleteI totally agree Joshua! I liked how we tried to improve each other's writing. Everyone's opinion was vaild based on their opinion though.
DeleteTeresa, I understand what you're trying to say, but we're suppose to explain context in this assignment. I feel like if we use background information, it would help us with a better understanding of this book. There's always context behind every evidence we used, it's best off if we understood the context before analyzing a quote. This is a very interesting discussion. Thanks to everyone who contributed in this discussion!
DeleteI love this debate! Thanks too everyone who took part in this discussion!
DeleteI would like to add onto this lovely discussion. Even though most of you agree/disagree with Amy's piece of work, Amy still did a wonderful job at explaining her position and how Colonialism impacted the Indian culture. Everyone has different perspectives on things, so either way, Amy's way of explaining is good enough to view her point of view. If she feels that her way is morally correct, then let it be. =]
DeleteAmy, I get what you're saying! Thanks for clarification!
DeleteThank you Veronica, and you're welcome Teresa :)!
DeleteBut wait I'm confused now. Isn't the headman Indian since it states that "For is not my father the head of this village?"? This shows that Rukmani, an Indian, had a father who was also Indian and the head of the village. I understand that after the British moved in Rukmani's father didn't have much power anymore since the British collectors did but it doesn't mean that Rukmani's father, the headman is not Indian.
DeleteI agree with you josephine. The headman should be Indian since the Collector is the British man
DeleteI also agree with both Josephine and Sophie because the Collector is a sign of Colonialism, which means that he is British. The headman is Rukmani's dad, meaning that he should be an Indian as well.
Delete1. "Once when I repeated this, my eldest bother overheard me, and he said sharply, "Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman" (Markandaya 8).
ReplyDeleteThis impacts the Indian village in a negative way. It shows that the headmaster, who is the chief of the village, does not have power to influence what the people in the village is right or wrong, instead the power is to the Collector to decide for them. This is negative for the people of the village because by having the Collector to choose the power, it is like Britain ruling them all over again. This showed colonialism as when Britain invaded India to colonize it, it caused a shift in power. The headman no longer had his power as the chief and instead was changed to the Collector. This also had impacted Rukmani and her marriage as since her father had no importance to the people anymore, she could not have her grand wedding like she wanted and instead had to settle with marrying a poor tenant farmer named Nathan.
2. "Come and see me, he said at last. "It is possible I may be able to do something...Remember, I do not promise. My fears came crowding upon me again. I had never been to this kind of doctor; he suddenly became terrifying.... I slunk away, frightened of I know not what. I placed even more faith in the charm my mother had given me, wearing it constantly between my breasts" (Markandaya 24)
This impacts the Indian village negatively. This shows that the only way for Rukmani to get a son is by a white doctor. This is negative since her three sisters gave birth to sons without seeking help. By having Kenny help her to get a son, it shows to the Indian village that Rukmani is useless since she cannot give birth to a boy. This showed colonialism as Kenny is a foreigner and Rukmani is a villager. This connects to Britain being the ones in control of what happens in India because by Rukmani not giving birth to a boy and then seeking help by the foreigner shows that Kenny is the one in control as she finally gives birth to a boy, seven years after her daughter was born, with his help. This impacts the village as now Kenny is a doctor that can help give birth to boys, which was very important in India to do so.
1) "Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman"(Markandaya 8).
ReplyDeleteThis shows how colonialism impacted the village in a negative way. The British influence the people. The people don't have freedom because the British have ultimate control and their ideas are more important. The people don’t have the freedom to choose their own lifestyles. Power isn't fairly distributed.
2)"With the leisure I now had I took up writing again. It was my father who taught me to read and write. People said he did it because he wanted his children to be one cut above the rest"(Markandaya 16).
This shows how colonialism impacted the village in a positive way. The people want to learn how to read and write. It is important to them because reading and writing helps them move up in society. The British influenced the people's need to learn. This impacts the people in a positive way.
I liked how u connected to colonialism :D
Delete1) "Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to those villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman" (Markandaya 8).
ReplyDeleteThis shows that Colonialism impacted people in the Indian village a negative way. A headman is a chief or leader and the Collector is a British official. The headman no longer has any power in the village but instead, the British official have all the power and he decides the headman of the village. The headman is also no longer important because the quote says, "the headman is no longer of consequence" (Markandaya 8). This British influence is a negative impact to the Indian village because the leader of the village is no longer important and that means the people have no say in the actions of the British. If even the headman of the village have no say, the villagers lower than the headman in the social hierarchy definitely have no say in their lives.
2) “It was my husband who woke me – my husband, whom I will call here Nathan, for that was his name, although in all the years of our marriage I never called him that, for it is not meet for a woman to address her husband except as “husband”’ (Markandaya 10).
This shows Colonialism impacted the people in the Indian village a negative way. Addressing their husband by their name is an informal way to address their husband. The British are intervening with their culture because the wife is not supposed to address their husband by their name.
Dear Xiao, i just love how u connected your ideas to lead on to your different ideas connecting to colonialism. You did a good job on showing the sign of colonialism and you explained clearly how Britain had impacted India negatively :D
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ReplyDelete1. "Perhaps that was why they could not find me a rich husband, and married me to a tenant farmer who was poor in everything but in love and care for me, his wife, whom he took at the age twelve" (Markandaya 4).
ReplyDeleteThis shows how Rukmani's parent lost all his power and since he did not have enough money to take care of her, arranged her marriage with a farmer. Colonialism created a bad impact on the lives of Rukmani's family because she had to be married at a young age since there wasn't enough money to maintain her. Also because no rich man would take her since her parent lost his power and his prestige was diminished, and that made his daughter, Rukmani less important.
2. " .. I wanted to cry. This mud hut, nothing but mud and thatch, was my home. My knees gave, first the cramped one, then the other, and I sank down. Nathan's faced filled with concern, as he came to hold me" (Markandaya 6).
This shows how colonialism had a negative impact in the village. In the book it says that Rukmai used to live in a good house since her sisters had fined weddings but now she didn't have the same luck therefore she is stuck at a mud hut. Colonialism led to decline of money now they are really poor and don't own anything it shows how negative it is because they don't even have money to make a bricked house or similar.
How do you know Nathan hasn't always been poor? Where does it say that the British took everything and made him poor?
Delete1) "This is our home," my husband said. "Come, I will show you."
ReplyDeleteI got out of the cart, stiff and with a cramp in one leg. We went in: two rooms, one asort of storehouse for grain, the other for everything else. A third had been begun but was unfinished, the mud walls were not more than half a foot high.
"It will be better when it is finished," he said. I nodded; I wanted to cry. This mud hut,nothing but mud and thatch, was my home (Markandaya 10)"
This impacts the Indian village negatively. Although Nathan built a house for Rukmani, she grew to be depress due to the fact she was going to live in poverty. Colonialism affected the Indian society very badly which led them to be in poverty. Rukmani grew up as a child with wealth and a stable home that was built by her father. Unlike her husband, who dealt with poverty, she had a simple and wealthy life. Therefore, this shows that Colonialism affected the Indian village negatively.
2)"Hanuman, the general merchant; Perumal, husband of Janaki, who kept the only shop; and Biswas, the moneylender" (13).
This impacts the Indian village negatively.Due to the fact that many civilians were poor, they could not provide for themselves. This would lead to many issues of financial problems and the only source of help for them is to borrow from others. By doing this, individuals would reveal to others that they are struggling. Even if they had a steady job, they would not earn as much money as others would normally receive. As I said before, this creates a connection to Colonialism because British began to colonize India which allowed many to struggle financially, economically etc. This proves that the Indian village struggled greatly during a time in need.
I truly love how you explained thoroughly and connected to the problems that the people are facing. Also, your ANA is really good for the reader to understand of how the Colonialism impacted the Indian Village in a harmful way. :)
DeleteThanks, Veronica ! <3 :)
Deletebut isnt this after the wedding? where do you show Rukmani facing problems of colonialism before her wedding?
Deleteoh and id also like to say very good reasoning ! :D
DeleteNawal, I see what you are trying to say but Joshua is right. He is allowed to use quotes after the wedding since according to the blog, it clearly says before and during the early years of marriage. The quotes he used were before Rukmani had kids, so technically, he is allowed to use them. According to your second question, I agree with you because I feel that we are suppose to use two different quotes that shows Rukmani's struggling before and during the marriage. But overall, Joshua did do a nice job. <3
Deletei see now :)thnx for the explanation
DeleteAnytime.[: Sorry if that sounded a little rude, I didn't mean to. :)
DeleteNope was not rude at all ..you are right ;)
DeleteAgain, where does it say that they were not poor beforehand?
Delete“Don’t speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to those villages once a year, and to him is the power, and those he appoints; not to the headman.” (Markandaya 8)
ReplyDeleteRukmani’s belief that her father’s position as headman in the village will guarantee her a grand wedding of her dream shows her childish innocence about the truth of things. Her older brother tells her that the headman is no longer of “consequence,” a sign of the changes in Indian society that will soon impact Rukmani’s life in drastic ways. Because the British ruled over the India, the Collector had the power of the village rather than the old way how headman had power to control the village. The shifting of power from headman to the Collector changes the Village in a negative way. The Collector who comes to villages once a year has no concern of how or what happens to the village. Unlike the Collector, the headman who lives in the village knows more about his own village and helps others in trouble. Thus, the shifting of power from headman to the Collector changes village the negative way because the Collector is abusing his power over the village.
“Perhaps that was why they could not find me a rich husband, and married me to a tenant farmer who was poor in everything but in love and care for me, his wife, whom he took at the age of twelve.….” (Markandaya 8)
Rukmani marriage at the age of 12 is not unusual nor is the fact that she did not know her husband. Child marriage was very common in India and girls younger than Ruku often found themselves as brides. Marriages were arranged by the parents of the bride and groom and often depended on the bride’s dowry. A dowry (which might consist of money, land, livestock or other goods) was necessary to secure a husband. The larger the dowry, the better the husband a family could get for their daughter. The spread of British tradition included the system known as dowry. The tradition influenced the Indians marriage in a negative way. The marriage is supposed to bond people heart but in this case the dowry make marriage seems financial issue. Therefore the bride who has a good amount of dowry will get a rich and handsome husband. Since the marriage is based on dowry, a cause of imperialism from British, the marriage shift to financial issue rather than bonding heart of people.
I love how you used context and went beyond the rocks! You also broke down key words which is very good :)
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Delete1)"But I am comforted most when I look at his hands. He has no fingers, only stubs, since what has been taken can never be given back, but they are clean and sounds. Where the sores were, there is now pink puckered flesh; his limbs are untouched" (Markandaya 7).
ReplyDeleteThis shows that colonialism impacted the Indian village in a negative way. Rukmani's child, Puli, sustain injuries in his hands because of British colonialism. The phrase "What has been taken can never be given back" shows that the British has something to do with Puli's hands and also represent the fact that they can't get back their land from the British. Colonialism was a negative impact because it cause harm and the injury of a child's hand
2) "Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to those villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman" (Markandaya 8).
This shows that colonialism impacted the people Indian village in a negative way. The headman, or chief of the village, is no longer in charge or in power. The collector, a British official, is now in charge of the village. Due to British influence, a foreigner is in power and they can't deny his authority since the headman is no longer in power. British colonialism was a negative because people such as the headman and anyone below the social hierarchy have no authority.
Xavier, i would like to point out that the first quote you have is not part of rukmani's before or during her early years of marriage. Rukmani was just talking about the present life and the book is based on her recalling her past on what happened. Overall you really did a good job on connecting to colonialism!
DeleteI agree with you,Tony, since Rukmani is currently talking about her kids. This part of the blog is only focusing on her early years and during her early years of marriage. This is before she had kids so your first quote would be good for the second part of the blog. :) Overall, I love your explanation and you did a good job at it.
Delete1) "I wanted to cry. This mud hut, nothing but mud and thatch, was my home. My knees gave, first the cramped one, then the other, and I sank down." (Markandaya 13)
ReplyDeleteThis quote shows the negative impacts of British colonialism in India. This impact in a negative way because it disrupted Rukmanis way of life in which she was so accustom too. She had broader expectations than what her husband, Nathan, could provide for her. She compares the life she is going to live with her husband Nathan to the life her father created for her family. Rukmaniis discouraged and even fearful of what her status has come to be. Due to British colonialism her family has lost the high status they once held and has left Rukmani to live a life unknown.
2)"While the sun shines on you and the fields are green and beautiful to the eye, and your husband sees beauty in you which no has seen before, and you have a good store of grain laid away for hard times, a roof over you and a sweet stirring in your body, what more can a woman ask for?" (Markandaya 17)
This quote shows the positive impacts of British colonialism in India. This impacts in a positive way because Rakumani is now learning the true values of life and learning how to become a better person. Rakumani is learning to cherish the small things in life instead of depending on the wealthy lifestyle she is used to. She is building an understanding for the essentials of life versus the luxuries of life by learning a new lifestyle and gaining new perspective. The mention of “grains laid away for hard times” represents a sense of security when it comes to her survival. British colonialism downgrading her social status has helped her to become more introspective and less materialistic.
Nice elaboration on how it connects and great connections to Colonialnism, Scarlett! :)
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ReplyDelete1)“Don’t speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is a collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman” (Markandaya 4).
ReplyDeleteRukmani’s father is the headman of the village. His wealth allowed Rukmani’s sisters to have big weddings with expensive gifts. Rukmani, the main character, tells her mother that she would like "a grand wedding" because of her father’s status. However, Rukmani’s eldest brother informs her that their father will not be headman anymore because of the collector. Colonialism impacts the Indian village and people in a negative way. The collector appointing a headman is a negative impact because the headman loses power. This shows how the British believe that they are superior to Indians and should choose the leaders.
2)“In her last months my father sent for the new doctor who settled in the village. Nobody knew where he came from or who paid him, but there he was, and people spoke well of him, though he was a foreigner” (Markandaya 18).
Kenny is a British doctor that helps Rukmani’s mother. Rukmani’s mother is in pain and he would give pills and powders to her, even when he isn't asked. This impacts the Indian village and people in a positive way. Although Kenny can be harsh, he wants to help others with medicine. This is a positive impact in British colonialism because the result is advancements in medicine.
1. "Shanta first, a big wedding which lasted for many days, plenty of gifts and feasts, diamond earrings, a gold necklace, as befitted the daughter of the village headman. Padmini next, and she too made a good match and was married fittingly, taking jewels and dowry with her; but when it came to Thangam, only relations from our village came to the wedding and not from the surrounding districts as they had done before, and the only jewel she had was a diamond nose-screw." (Markandaya 8)
ReplyDeleteThis shows that it impact the village in a negative way because once the sisters get married they get all the jewels that they never had.Like, Rukmani she watched her sister get married to rich people, this made her feel like when she get married she would want this . Rukmani would want this because later in a few lines it tell us that she did not really like her new home. She might not like it because that's not what she wished for.
2. “Don’t speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is a collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman” (Markandaya 4).
This shows that it impact the village in a negative way because the collector maybe a British person and took over the headman's job, which is Rukmani's father job. The collector may respect the people in a bad way and do not like the collector. It mentions that he has all the power which could also mean he controls the village that the collector invaded.
You used two strong evidence, but I think for the first evidence, you should inculde how the British people impacted the Indian village negatively.
DeleteThe analysis is not connected except by speculation. Also, edit for grammar and punctuation. The evidence is good, but the analysis needs to connect based on the texts, not maybes.
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ReplyDelete1) “A woman, they say, always remembers her wedding night. Well, maybe they do; but for me there are other nights I prefer to remember.” (Markandaya 8)
ReplyDeleteColonialism impacts the Indian village in a negative way. Rukmani grew up with her sisters who had good weddings, so she always had in mined that she would have a good wedding too. All women are known for dreaming and imagining how perfect their wedding will be, this is like the best day in their lives. Colonialism had a negative impact on the Indian village, because it made what supposed to be the best day of someone’s life not even near okay. Colonialism made people in the Indian village poor, Rukmani and her husband did not have enough money to make their wedding like what they wanted it to be.
2) “I wanted to cry. This mud hut, nothing but mud and thatch, was my home" (Markandaya 10)
Colonialism impacts the Indian village in a negative way. Rukmani is not used to the poor life; she was raised in a wealthy family who used to have a lot of power. Rukmani’s reaction to her new home was not a surprise, since her old home had everything and this new home has nothing. Colonialism had a negative impact on the Indian village, because it made people very poor that they did not have enough money to effort a nice house.
1) “Don’t speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman” (Markandaya 8).
ReplyDeleteThis impacts the Indians and the village in a negative way. The lives of the Indians are controlled by the British. Villages are under British control therefore the people aren’t given enough freedom or independence from the government. Power is distributed unequally and is centralized around a small few instead of the majority of the people. The control and power has shifted from the chief to the “Collector”. The chief no longer holds any kind of power but is a mere figurehead instead all the power is controlled by the Collector. The Collector I assume maybe the tax collector and since he makes all the decisions he renders the headman’s job useless. This shows how colonialism has changed the distribution of power but as well as who controls it. Overall this would be considered a negative effect of colonialism.
2) “With the leisure I now had took up writing again. It was my father who taught me to read and write. People said he did it because he wanted his children to be one cut above the rest…” (Markandaya 16)
This impacts the people in a positive way. The ability to read and write provided the people with hope at a chance to advance socially as well as finically in society. Education was deemed to be important since it decided whether you got a job equal to your capabilities and understandings. Since the Indians were under British control, some Indians found it necessary to learn their language so they are able to communicate with them. This provided the Indians with more opportunities to move up on the social scale. Education provided them with social mobility; therefore this would be a positive effect of colonialism.
Great use of words and how it connects to colonialism. I love how you stretched your thinking in the second quote by explaining why it was important for the Indians to learn their reading and writing skills. ;)
DeleteI like how you brougt up social mobility. That is areally good point. Also good job in the ANA, i really understood it thoroughly.
DeleteMe too. Nice job.
Delete1) "But of course he was right, and by the time I came to womanhood even I had to acknowledge that his prestige was much diminished. Perhaps that was why they could not find me a rich husband, married me to a tenant farmer who was poor in everything but in love and care for me, his wife, whom he took at the age twelve" (Markandaya 8).
ReplyDeleteThis shows a negative impact to the Indian Village and colonialism is presented in the quote. Her dad lost all his power in being the head of the village to the collector. After his power was lost, she had no choice, but to marry a poor farmer and a person who is below her ( Meaning in social class). This quote shows sign of colonialism because some other country or people has control and power instead of the head of the village.
2) "It was my husband who woke me- my husband, whom I will call here Nathan, for that was his name, although in all years of our marriage I never called him that, for it is not meet for a women to address her husband except as husband" ( Markandaya 10).
This quote shows colonialism and has a negative impact to the Indian Village. People has no rights nor any power to do anything. Women from the Indian Village didn't even had the right to call their husbands by their name. It was mandatory to call their husbands "husband".
I liked how you gave information outside the box, but remember to state who "he" and "she" is. It's pretty confusing if you don't state who they are before you go into pronouns.
DeleteI agree with Teresa because pronouns are confusing if you dont specify who the person you're talking about.
DeleteHow do you know that the name custom is British and not Indian?
Delete1. (Before Rukmani marriage) - “My three sisters were married long before I was. Shanta first, a big wedding which lasted for many days, plenty of gifts and feasts, diamond earrings, a gold necklace, as befitted the daughter of the village headman. Padmini next, and she too made a good match and was married fittingly, taking jewels and dowry with her” (Markandaya 7-8).
ReplyDeleteColonialism is the control or influence over a dependent country or people. Based on this definition, this quote shows that colonialism had a negative impact in India. Before Rukmani’s marriage, women were able to have a “big wedding” with lots of “gifts and feasts”. Due to colonialism these traditions stop because British’s customs invaded the people believes and this change India in a whole new way, by changing the way people in India used to get merry and the way India used to be control. Because when Rukmani’s sister, Thangam got merry she had a small wedding since only people from their village assist, and instead of getting many jewels she only got a diamond nose-screw (Markandaya 8). Rukmani and her sisters are daughters of a headman. But because a British collector is sent every year to every village, headman started to loose their power. This shows that colonialism had a negative impact in India because its people started to loose their tradition also know as their identity, and it also cost them to loose control of their country.
2. (Rukmani’s early part of marriage) – “he had made our home himself, and I had felt only fear to live in it” (Markandaya 12).
Rukmani came from an upper class but because of colonialism she had to get merry with a poor man named Nathan. Since she came from a high class it made it very hard for her to get used to the poor life. Although this cause Rukmani to live a hard life, this quote shows that colonialism had a negative and a positive affect. Based on this quote some people would say that colonialism had a negative effect on India because it made its people to live a poor life, which this makes it hard for them to achieve their goals. But this quote also shows that colonialism had a positive affect because it taught people in India that there were more important things than materials. For example Rukmani at first used to suffer a lot for the poor life she lived. But as one month of marriage passed by she started to see that material things were not as important as they look, and that the most important thing is love. This shows that colonialism had a negative effect because it caused poverty. But it also had a positive affect too because it taught people how to become better human beings by decreasing their thirst for material things because thru colonialism they are able to learn the importance of love. When there is true love, people care of one of other and this makes them become more united and helpful.
Great use of context and I love how you showed it was positive and negative in the second quote. I also loved both of the evidence. Great job! :)
DeleteI really love how you wrote which part you are using the the parenthesis and how you used a quote in your first piece of writing. :)Great job on your context and ANA as well :]
DeleteThanks you guys ! :D
DeleteMerry=marry loose=lose
DeleteCareful with the word choice and spelling!
1) “This mud hut, nothing but mud and thatch, was my home. My knees gave, first the cramped one, then the other, and I sank down. Nathan’s face filled with concern as he came to hold me” (Markandaya 10).
ReplyDeleteAmong Britain colonizing India, there are negative impacts in the Indian village. In Nectar in a Sieve the main character Rukmani, got married to a tenant farmer, Nathan. They had to leave the place they were living before because Britain invaded India. Since Britain colonized India, Rukmani, has a new place to live with her husband. The place was a “mud hut”, where there are muds all over the place. This was a negative impact since Britain conquered India; Indians now have to live in poor conditions. Rukmani, has a father who is a village headman. Her family probably has a nice place to live in because the quote says, “Nathan’s face was filled with concern”. The audience can infer that Nathan’s face was filled with concern because he knows that Rukmani used to live in a rich place, and now she has to live in a dump. Unfortunately, after Britain took over India, Rukmani has to live in an insanitary dwelling. Therefore, living in a mud hut is a negative impact to the Indian villagers.
2) "Don’t speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman. This was the first time I had ever heard that my father was of no consequence.” (8)
This quote shows a negative impact on the Indian villagers. Headmen, who were the Indians once, had power in their land. Now since Britain conquered India, the Collector, who is a British man, has more potential than the headmen. The Collector has the “power” over the Indians because they conquered most parts of India. This shows that Indian villagers have no rights and can’t do anything since Britain has authority. Rukmani’s father once was a headmen and he had “consequences”. A consequence means having importance or significance. But after the invasion of Britain, her father has no ability to control India anymore. This negative impact affect India pretty badly because now they’re oppressed by British men.
To be honest with you, I feel that this post is the best since it had influenced my mind in so many ways. You have given the background info on who Rukmani has married to and why they had to leave and all that. You have also stated how India became oppressed, I believe by fear. Overall, I feel that this is a good influence for other honors students to follow since providing readers with background information and well ANA and thorough explanation, we can all get a good knowledge/ point of view on how India had viewed Colonialism. :)<3
DeleteThis is well written. Great job Teresa:)
DeleteThank you Veronica and Amy!
Delete-Without you guys giving me information on this homework I wouldn't do as well. So thank you for that too !
Thank YOU for this wonderfully written piece of work because now I can make my homework twice as better from the original one that I was planning to write. :)
DeleteWow! You're welcome! I'm glad that my homework really helped yours :)
DeleteTeresa, your analysis is excellent and terrific. I have nothing to say since its perfect!
DeleteThank you Tony !
DeleteUnfortunately, you are all wrong. They have a small hut because he is a farmer and is poor regardless of the British. He has always been this way. The reason she has to marry him is because her family has no dowry for her, so she has to marry a poor man who will take her without a dowry. The impact has to do with the fact that her father has no power anymore because of the collector, not making Nathan poor. He was born poor! She just has to marry below her status since her father's status doesn' t count any more.
Delete1) "Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power..." (Markandaya 4.
ReplyDeleteRukmani's father used to be of importance in the village, but once the British came they took his power away. This impacts the village negatively because Rukmani's family, lose their power. The British have come and taken full political control over the village. Since Rukmani's father has lost his power, she won't be able to find a more suitable husband to marry who has money.
2)" We went in: two rooms, one sort of storehouse for grain, the other for everything else. A third had been begun but was unfinished, the mud walls were not more than hald a foot high" (Markandaya 6).
Rukmani and her husband have to live in a house made of mud and thatch. This has a negative effect on the village because they live in horrible conditions. They have to live in a house made of mud. The British have them live in poor conditions to keep power over them.
Great explanations but u were missing context.
DeleteIs there proof that the British keep them in poor conditions because of power? Can't Nathan live somewhere else? Why? Why not?
Delete1."Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those appoints; not to the headman"(Markandaya 4).
ReplyDeleteColonialism is the time when Britain invaded and colonizes India. Britain's control over the Indians had impacted the Indian village and the people in a negative way. Since the British took over India, The Collector, a British man, had the power over the villagers. The headman, an Indian member of the tribe used to be the one with the most authority. However, the British had complete control over them which cause the headman to not have the power or "consequence". Rukmani's father, the headman of the tribe, doesn't have the power to control his land. Colonialism impacted the Indians in a negative way, causing the Indians to have lost complete control over their land that they used to have.
I like how you included background information and context in your analysis and I like how you used a transition word, "However", to show the cause and effect of the British people taking over the Indian village. Good job :)
DeleteConnected to colonialism strongly and included key words or signs of colonialism such as "consequenc". Great job!
Delete“… But when it came to Thangam, only relations from our own village came to the wedding and not from the surrounding districts as they had done before, and the only jewel she had was a diamond nose-screw” (Markandaya 8).
ReplyDeleteColonialism had a negative impact on the people of India because it changed their traditions. Shanta, Rukmani’s oldest sister, was the first to marry. She received a big wedding with many gifts and feasts. Padmini, Rukmani’s second sister to marry, also had a good wedding with many jewels and dowry. When it came for Thangam to marry, she had a small wedding, and received only one jewel. As it can be seen, over the years, the weddings of these young ladies in India changed. The reason for this change was because Britain had colonized India. Their father’s status as the headmaster of the village was diminished by the Collector, a British man. Because of this, the tradition of having big weddings was broken. Their father was no longer the headmaster, so nothing was the same anymore.
“Kali and Janaki between them had to show me how to milk the goat, how to plant seed, how to churn butter from milk, and how to mull rice" (Markandaya 14).
Colonialism had a negative impact on the people of India because they were forced to adapt to new lifestyle changes. After the British diminished Rukmani’s father’s status by taking over his power as the village’s headmaster, Rukmani’s family could not find her a rich man to marry. Rukmani was left to marry a poor tenant farmer and after getting married, she had to go and live with him. During the first weeks of having been married, she had to learn to work. Working was something she was not accustomed to doing because was previously a woman of high class. Rukmani eventually learned to do farm work correctly with the help of Kali and Janaki, but this was a totally new experience for her. If the British did not colonize India, then Rukmani would have probably married a rich man and would have never had to endure the hard change of a new lifestyle.
Exactly! Nice job.
Delete2. " It was my husband who woke me- my husband, whom I will call here Nathan, for that was his name, although in all the years of our marriage I never called him that, for it is not meet for a women to address her husband except as "husband" (Markandaya 5).
ReplyDeleteThis impacted the Indian villagers and the people in a negative way. Women weren't allowed to have the right to call their husbands by their real name. They can only address them as "husband". Britain didn't allow woman to do this which it wasn't unfair to women. It makes women have less power and freedom. They can't say their husband's name when they may wish to. It was the Britain's custom for a woman to "address her husband except as "husband". Britain influence the Indians in a negative way, disrespecting and disregard women rights.
“What use,” my mom said, “that a girl should be learned! Much good will it do her when she has lusty sons and a husband to look after.” (Markanadaya 16)
ReplyDeleteThis shows that colonialism impacted the Indian village and the people in a negative way. This quote shows that women were treated unequally and were only seen as housewives. Men were superior to women and women needed men in their lives to have a good life. India was influenced by Britain and in Europe; they also had the same standards. Women should only be housewives and there`s no reason for them to learn how to read and write when they`re were going to be busy maintaining the house in order.
“Nathan at first paid scant attention to her: he had wanted a son to continue his line and walk beside him on the land, not a puling infant who would take with her a dowry and leave nothing but a memory behind:” (Markanadaya 20)
This shows that colonialism impacted the Indian village and the people in a negative way. In Britain and in Europe men always wanted their first born to be a boy and in India they were influenced to have the same standards. When Ira was born, Nathan didn’t pay much attention to her. He wanted someone who could carry on the family name but he wish was not fulfilled, but at the end he accepted his first born as a girl. Again, this shows how people had more preference for boy than for girls; showing men were superior to women.
Very great pieces of evidence!! I lovd how you explained out of the box for both evidence. You were just missing context. :)
Delete1) “Perhaps that was why they could not find me a rich husband, and married me to a tenant farmer who was poor in everything but in love and cares for me, his wife, whom he took at the age of twelve” (Markandaya 4).
ReplyDeleteThis impacted the Indian village in a negative way. Rukmani’s father who was the head of the village, lost all his power. Since he then had no power it meant that he no longer had the money to support his daughter, Rukmani. So he then arranged for Rukmani to marry a farmer. Colonialism impacted Rukmani and her family in a negative way because since there was no money to support her, Rukmani had to marry at a young age, 12. Rukmani could then not marry a rich man because she no longer was of value. Before she was of value because of her father who was the head of the village, but now that he is of no value, she is of no value as well. Therefore she had to be married to a poor farmer.
2) “With the leisure I now had to take up writing again. It was my father who taught me to read and write. People said he did it because he wanted his children to be one cut above the rest...” (Markandaya 16).
This impacted the Indian Village in a positive way. If people had the ability to read and write then it gave them hope. The villagers hoped to move up social classes which would then also help them financially. The British influenced the people to learn. If they learned to read and write then the Indians were then able to communicate with the British and then the British would then be able to offer them a job. This would then help the British with an advantage, there helping with colonialism.
I see what you did there :)
DeleteFor the second quote you needed to include context. I loved both of your evidence.The second quote had a rally great explanation of the positive effect of colonialism.
DeleteBefore and during Rukmani’s early part of marriage, different signs of colonialism are present. These signs of colonialism impact the Indian village in negative ways. When Rukmani was little, her older brother advised her, “Don’t speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman” (Markandaya 4). Her brother’s thoughts sunk in and Rukmani finally understood thinking, “this was the first time I had ever heard that my father was of no consequence. It was as if a prop on which I leaned had been roughly kicked away, and I felt frightened and refused to believe him. But of course he was right, and by the time I came to womanhood even I had to acknowledge that his prestige was much diminished” (Markandaya 4). This shows that before Rukmani’s early part of marriage, the Collector is a sign of British colonialism impacting the Indian village in a negative way. The Collector impacted the Indian village in a negative way because the Collector is a tax collector. Since he is a tax collector, he has more power than the headman of the village since even the headman must pay taxes. The Collector is a sign of British colonialism because tax collectors are of European influence; before the British colonized the Indian village, no collectors were present. During Rukmani’s early part of marriage, Rukmani thought, “Sometimes now I can see quite clearly: the veil is rent and for a few seconds I see blue skies and tender trees, then it closes on me again and once more I am back in a world of my own, which darkens a little each passing day (Markandaya 6). This shows that after the British colonized Rukmani’s village, they have impacted the village negatively. This is because the taxes or “veil of rent” the collectors take trouble the villagers. The village is not very wealthy so after the British introduced collectors, the villagers worried since they could not afford to pay taxes. In other words, Rukmani’s world “darkens a little each passing day” since the British continue to influence her village that is constantly fighting against poverty. Therefore, the British’s introduction of collectors in Rukmani’s village impacted the village in a negative way.
ReplyDeleteso how many quotes do u have?
DeleteI see that u have brilliant ideas but u just have to make it more clear :)
(and i do not mean to sound rude)
How should I make this more clear? I have 2 quotes but I broke down the first one. Were we supposed to put this in paragraph form?
DeleteAnd you must really want your extra credit Nawal.
oh I see now yes very smart :P and lol no I just love commenting when im bored :p
Delete1. " 'For is not my father head of the village?' I knew this pleased my mother...Once I repeated this, my eldest brother overheard me, and he said sharply,'Don't speak like a fool,the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector... and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman," (Markandaya 4).
ReplyDeleteThroughout the chapter, different signs of Colonialism are being presented. There we have Rukmani who is depressed based on what the British did, which is that they have invaded India. This is negative because her eldest brother believes that her father can no longer be respected because someone else is in power and they have control over India. However, that was before she got married. She went from a high class women to a low class women, based on the farmer who she married when she was young.
2. "How well I recall it, how grateful I am that not all the clamour which invaded our lives later could subdue the memory or still the longing for it. Rather, it has strengthened it: had there not been what has been, I might never have known how blessed we were," (Markandaya 8-9).
Markandaya is showing through Rukmani how life can not mean anything without your loved ones. That's because if the British had never invaded, no one would have seen the true meaning or the true value of life. No one would have seen that they should be happy with what they have. This might impact the Indian village and its people in a positive way. That's because they could see that they are living their lives to the full, whereas other people have it worse than them.
for the first quote how is it negative towards the village?
Deletethe second quote was marvelous..i loved your explanation :)
“Don’t speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman” (Markandaya 8).
ReplyDeleteThis shows how colonialism impacted the Indian village negatively. The headman has no power anymore in the village, his power passed on to the Collector who is a British official. Since the headman no longer has the power to control and Britain conquered India, it makes the Collector to have more power to control the village. This shows colonialism impacted the Indian village in a negative way because it shows outsiders have the control rather than the headman of the village.
“I wanted to cry. This mud hut, nothing but mud and thatch, was my home” (Markandaya 10).
This shows how colonialism impacted the Indian village in a negative way. Rukmani was grown up in a wealthy family but because of colonialism, she had to marry a poor farmer, live under a poor condition and a poor house. Comparing to her old house to her new, her old house was elegant and beautiful but her new house is only with mud and thatch which led her to depression. This shows colonialism impacted the Indian village negatively because colonialism effected villagers not to have the money to build a better house
Both of your evidence are good and I really like how you gave some background info in your second quote. :]
Deletefor the first quote..why do u think the collector impacts the village negatively and not the headman?
Deletegreat context for second quote! ;) great evidence as well
1)Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints;not to the headman"(Makandaya 8)
ReplyDeleteRukmani believes that her father as a headman will grant her a wedding that will never be forgotten. Colonialism plays a negative role in this situation that will affect Rukmani's life. Since the British colonized India, the Collector,who is the British official, exerts all "power". He decides to create change to the village. The headman has become less important and the Collector has taken the new position as leader. This change is negative towards the village because the headman is more knowledgeable about the village to help his people rather than the Collector visiting once a year, ignorant of the villages' updates. The people of India have no voice towards the British. If the "headman is no longer of consequence" than so are the people which gives them a lack of freedom. Therefore,the influence of the British led to conflicts facing the people of India.
2) ...I wanted to cry. This mud hut, nothing but mud and thatch, was my home. My knees gave, first the cramped one, then the other, and I sank down. Nathans face filled with concern as he came to hold me"(Makandaya 10)
Rukmani's parents were unable to afford a grand dowry(money form the bride's family to the husband's family)so they married Rukmani to a poor tenant farmer named Nathan. Rukmani was living in a great home until she moved to a "mud hut" with her husband due to the invasion of India by Britain. This shows how colonialism had a negative impact on the Indians because it led to a decline in wealth. Since Britain subjugated India, the Indians had to live in poor houses. Later on in the book, Rukmani discovers that Nathan built the mud house himself. This shows that Britain greatly ruled over India with force and torment. Some villagers, if not all, had to build their own houses and this was a problem, for the houses were not strong enough shelter. For this reason, this had been a negative effect of colonialism.
I really like how you explained thoroughly and your TS for the first quote. :3 Both of your quotes are really strong and I love how your ANA kept on floating. :)
Deletethank you Veronica! <3
DeleteAnytime(: Keep up the good work!<3
DeleteI disagree. The British did not make Nathan live in a mud hut. That is a typical home for tenant farmers.
Delete1) Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints;not to the headman"(Makandaya 8)
ReplyDeleteIn this quote Rukmani is thinking that her father, the headman, has a lot of power to throw her a beautiful wedding like her other sisters. Her brother then tells her that their father doesn't have all the power and the collector replaced him as the person with most authority. This is an example of colonialism because it is showing the British official taking over the Indian government.
This had a negative impact on not only Rukmani, but the village there in too. It affected Rukmani because she wasn't able to have the wedding she wanted and ended up living with a poor husband. It affected the village because they were being taken over by the British government.
2) "I wanted to cry. This mud hut, nothing but mud and thatch, was my home. My knees gave, first the cramped one, then the other, and I sank down."
In this quote Rukmani is just getting to her new home and she is sad to find that her new home is not nearly as nice as her old home. Rukmani's parents were not able to give as much money to Nathan, Rukmani's husband, and since he was poor they couldn't buy a better house. This is an example of colonialism because great Britain was taking a lot of money from the village, not allowing them to get better houses. This is a negative impact because Britain is repressing the Indian people and they are not able to live the life they used to have before Britain took over.
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DeleteGreat context u got there and great connection to colonialism :)
DeleteAgain, assumptions (and spelling errors).
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ReplyDelete1) “Don’t speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman” (Markandaya 8)
Rukmani’s father was the headman of the village in Nectar in a Sieve. Since Rukmani’s father was headman he had power and wealth within the village. However, because of colonialism power has been transitioned from the headman to the Collector. Her father no longer has power. The Collector has power over the village. This impacts the Indian village since now they have a new leader to direct them. This could impact the Indian village in a negative way or a positive way depending on how the Collector treats the villagers. This transition of power, impacts Rukmani in a negative way since now her father has lost his power and wealth and she has to be wedded at the age of twelve to a poor farmer.
2) “Our relatives, I know, murmured that the match was below me; my mother herself was not happy, but I was without beauty and without dowry and it was the best she could do.” (Markandaya 8)
Because of colonialism Rukmani status has been degraded. After her father lost his power as headman to the Collector, Rukmani had to be married to a poor farmer. Colonialism had impacted Rukmani in a negative way since her father’s loss of power lowered her own status. Usually when a father is headman the daughter would be married to a wealthier husband. But because of colonialism Rukmani father lost his power and Rukmani had to marry below her status.
The Collector is the sign of colonialism before and during Rukmani’s early years of marriage. Because the British invaded and colonized India a shift in power in the village has occurred. The Collector replaced the power of the headman of the village.
You stated in the first quote that the collector "could impact the Indian village in a negative way or a positive way depending on how the Collector treats the villagers." But based on the evidence, dont you think that the headman will affect the people more positively since he knows whats going on all the time in the village rather than the Collector who visits once a year?
DeleteAnd i really liked how you had a great explanation for the second quote such as stating that Raku's fathers' status can affect her own. Also great connections to colonialism ;)
I agree with you Nawal because the headmaster already knows whats going on. Meanwhile the collector has no idea what is happening in the village since he only comes once a year. Thus making him useless when becoming the new chief of the village and making him a negative influence on the village.
Delete1) "Shanta first, a big wedding which lasted for many days, plenty of gifts and feasts, diamond earrings, a gold necklace, as befitted the daughter of the village headman" (Markdandaya 3)
ReplyDeleteThis quote shows that colonialism has impacted the Indian Village in a negative way. Colonialism had drained the wealth and power of villages. Rukmani, whose family was the head of a village and had wealth, now finds herself in a situation where that no longer matter anymore. Declining wealth forces Rukmani's family to give her into marriage to that of a poor farmer, Nathan, since they were not able to afford a grand dowry. This shows negativity of colonialism because all of Rukmani's older sister were able to enjoy wealth after being given into marriage, but Rukmani is forced to give up her remaining wealth to live Nathan. Colonialism caused Rukmani to endure this problem, therefore colonialism has impacted the Indian Village in a negative way.
2) "I got out of the cart, stiff and with a cramp in one leg. We went in: two rooms, one a sort of storehouse for grain, the other for everything else" (Markdandaya 6)
This quote shows that colonialism has impacted the Indian Village in a negative way. After Rukmani rode six miles to her new home, she is displeased about the place she will be living in. Rukmani feels insecure about living in such a vile place, but she suppresses her displeasure by saying she was "worn out from the ride". This shows Rukmani is insecure because she is not used to living in such a place. Rukmani is an educated person and lived in a fine house, yet she was married to a poor landless farmer. This forced Rukmani to unwillingly adapt and change her lifestyle to fit that of the country side. Therefore colonialism has impacted the Indian Village in a negative way.
A sign of colonialism before and during Rukmani's early years of marriage is the influence of The Collector. Before colonialism, Rukmani's father was the headman of her village. Rukmani's family had power and wealth because of this position. That's why Rukmani's older sister were able to enjoy their wealth after marriage. Unfortunately for Rukmani, her marriage was during colonialism. During colonialism, a figure called The Collector, began changing the villages customs and politics. This figurehead replaced that of the headman, Rukmani's father, and therefore led to Rukmani being given into marriage to a poor farmer.
Delete1. “There is a Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman” (Markandaya 4).
ReplyDeleteWhen Rukmani was a little girl she used to believe that her father, the headman, was the most powerful in the village. One day her brother over heard her saying this and told her that the collector, which was British, was the one with all the power. This shows signs of how colonialism impacted India in a negative way. The British had invaded and colonized India taking away their power. The headman was usually the one with the most power in Indian villages but ever since the tax collectors came they were no longer powerful. By taking away their power they took away their wealth which is a negative impact for India.
2. “This mud hut, nothing but mud and thatch, was my home” (Markandaya 6).
Rukmani was used to living in a wealthy house with her parents. Due to colonialism Rukmani had to marry Nathan, a tenant farmer, and move into this “mud hut”. Nathan had tried his best to build this hut, but he was poor and could not afford to build something better. This shows colonialism impacting India in a negative way because unlike all of her sisters Rukmani had to marry someone who was considered a “poor match” by her family. Colonialism had a negative impact because it led to a decline in wealth which made people’s lives harder. Rukmani now had to live in poor conditions and learn how to plant crops and do many other things that she didn’t have to do before colonialism.
" Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the collector, who comes to these villages once per year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints: not to the headman" (Markanday 8).
ReplyDeleteColonialism is shown as Rukumani's dad has no power as the headmaster of the village. The tax collector makes all the decisions although he comes once per year. During that time period, the British colonized India. usually when a country colonizes another country, they have more power. That's what this quote is showing as the tax collector makes all the decisions. This can have a negative effect to the villagers depending on what the tax collector does. the headman's power doesn't matter anymore. Usually when the people that colonized the country uses their power to abuse the people of the country. Of course, that depends on what the tax collector does to the people depending on his decisions. The tax collector having power will change the life styles of the people of India. This shows what colonialism is.
" This mud hut, nothing but mud and thatch was my home. My knees gave, the cramped one, then the other, and I sank down. Nathan's face filled with concern as he came to hold me" ( Markanday 10).
Colonialism led to Rukuman to not live in a good lifestyle. Rukuman used to have a better life until the British colonized India. She was forced to marry Nathan, a poor farmer at a young age. Colonailism led to Rukuman's family to be poor because the British got all the money. Colonialism led to Rukuman to live in a horrible house and not have a good life. Since her family was poor, Rukuman had to marry a poor farmer. This is a negative impact to the people because the British got all of what India has. Since the British has all the power, the lives of the people will change from bad to worse. The British had all the resources and wealth of the people. That's how colonialism works. The country that was colonized will be forced to live in a poor lifestyle as the colonizer will get wealthy and rich. Rukuman's family became poor due to colonailsim and that changed Rukuman's life. That's how colonialism can change people's lives.
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ReplyDelete"But of course he was right, and by the time I came to my womanhood even I had to acknowledge that his prestige was diminished." (Markandaya 8)
ReplyDeleteThis quote shows that colonialism had a negative impact on the Indian village. Rukmani was talking to her mom about the marriage. Rukmani realized that her mom had a worry look on her face and tried to please her and make her happy. She said how her father was the head of village and then her brother heard. He told her that there is a Collector who has all the power. Rukmani eventually realized that her brother was right. This had a negative impact because when the British invaded they gave the power to the Collector. The headman had no power which leads to Rukmani's family becoming poor and her social class lowered because she married a tenant farmer. A farmer who occupies land or property land rented from a landlord. She could not even pay the dowry for her wedding showing a negative impact on her because she couldn’t afford to pay the farmer.
"How well I recall it, how grateful i am that not all the clamour which invaded our lives later could subdue the memory or still the longing for it." (Markandaya 13)
This qoute show the negative impact colonialism had on the Indian village. Rukmani heart sang because her husband had told her that he sees beauty in her that no one has seen before. Rukmani says that they were able to sleep in peace and quiet. The clamour that Rakmani speaks about is a loud persistent outcry from a large amount of people. This shows that colonialism had a negative impact because not many people were able to sleep in peace when the British came. They all cried very loudly because of the British invasion. Showing us the negative impact colonialism had on the Indian village.
I like your second one, Kelseey!
Delete1) "Dont speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of cosequence. There is the collector, who comes to these villages once ayear, and to him is the power , and th those he appoints; not the headman" (Markandaya 8). This shows how colonialism impacted the village in a negative way. The fact that the british colonized india was one negative impact, but also when Rukmani's father loses his power makes him look bad aswell. Having no influence on the village the headmaster will not be trusted and the village will now have to look upon the collector who comes around only once ayear. In addition having the collector as the chief is like having the British in control of the village. 2) "It was my father who taught me to read and write. People said he did it because he wanted his children to be one cut above the rest..."(Markandaya 16). This shows how colonialism impacted the people in a possitive way. Reading and writing was a mojor advantage because it was a way of communicating with others. The fact that Rukmani knew how to read and write was a good and positive aspect that she had. Knowing how to read and write could benefit her in many ways. She could get a job and communicate with the British. Therefore making this a positive impact on Rukmani and the people of the villge in India.
ReplyDeletespelling errors
Delete"The headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector,who comes to these villages once a year,and to those he appoints; not the headman" (Markandaya 8)
ReplyDeleteIn the village where Ruthmani is born, her father is the appointed leader of the village, the village headman. The village headman is supposed to make the important decisions for the village. The village headman has most of the power in Ruthmani's village. However, the village headman is "not of consequence" which means the village headman does not have power. The power is in the "collector" who comes to the village annually. The "collector" is an official working for the british. The collector collects taxes from the village each year, as required by the colonial british government in India at that time. The official working for the british was more powerful than a village headman. This hurts the people of India, because foreign people were in control their lives when the villagers were fully capable of making their own decisions.
"My husband did not own the land he tilled, as my father had done" (Mirandaya 13)
Ruthmani's husband was a farmer in a village. He worked the land and grew crops on it and harvested his crops. Her husband, Nathan, however did not own his own land. He worked his land, but did not own it. The british owned the land, and Nathan had to rent the land to work on it. It is ridiculous that people who have never worked on the land own the land, while the farmers who actually work the land have no ownership over their land. This harms the people of the village, because the villagers dont even own the land on which they depend on for food.
1) "Perhaps that was why they could not find me a rich husband, and married me to a tenant farmer who was poor in everything but in love and care for me, his wife, whom he took at the age of twelve" (Markandaya 8).
ReplyDeleteThis shows that Rukmani's family has lost power. He no longer is the rich man he used to be. Colonialism created a bad impact on Rukmani's family because they were not able to marry her to a rich men. No rich man wanted to marry her since her family was no longer in power, she was seen as unimportant. She had to marry at a young age so that she could be maintained by her husband.
2) This mud hut, nothing but mud and thatch, was my home" (Markandaya 10).
This shows how Rukmani has lost power. She went from living in a wealthy house to living in a mud house. Colonialism has a bad impact on Rukmani because unlike her sisters, she married a "poor match". This led to a decline in wealth. It made Rukmani's life much harder since she had to learn how to do many newt hings. She learned how to cook, plant, and wash clothes.
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ReplyDelete(1)"Do not speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman." (Markandaya 4)
ReplyDeleteThis quote shows that British colonization has impacted India in a negative way. The power is no longer in the hands of the headman, who is supposed to be the chief leader. The Collector, a member of the Indian Administrative Service under the British Raj), is now the head of power. One would think that the power holder of a nation would be a member of the country However, British Colonization prevented Indians from having control. Their pride as an Indian has been taken away because the country has lost independence. The British colonization has affected Rukmani's family directly. Since Rukmani's father has lost his political power, the family has also lost financial stability. Rukmani was not able to have the luxurious wedding she always dreamed of.
(2) "We went in: two rooms, one a sort of storehouse for grain, the other for everything else. a third had been begun but was unfinished, the mud walls were no more than half a foot high. "It will be better when it is finished," he said. I nodded; wanted to cry. this mud hut, nothing but mud and thatch, was my home." (Markandaya 6)
This quote further demonstrates how British colonization has had a negative affect on India. Before the British took control, Rukmani's father held power and her sisters had grand and lavish weddings. Diamonds and gold were given to them. As time went on and the British took over India, society became poor and living conditions were not as comfortable as they used to be. Rukmani, a girl who once had it all, has to now settle for an unfinished mud house as a home. This is an extreme transition for her and it shows how quickly India declined after it was occupied by Britain.
1)"It will be better when it is finished," he said. I nodded; I wanted to cry. This mud hut,nothing but mud and thatch, was my home"(Markandaya 6).
ReplyDeleteDue to Britain colonizing India, there were many negative impacts in the Indian village. Colonialism was harmful for the Indians because Rukmani,the main character, at a young age got married to a tenant farmer, Nathan.After their marriage, they both had to leave the place since Britain had colonized India, their homeland. Rukmani was really upset to leave her family, but when they had arrived to their new home, she was shocked. The place was a “mud hut”, meaning that there was mud all over their house(6). This was a negative impact on the people since the Indians had to live in poor or miserable conditions. Rukmani's father was a village headman, and he had owned a beautiful,rich house. This was really upsetting and injustice to Rukmani since from a wealthy life style, she then had to live in a dump that her husband had created. For this reason, this had been a negative effect of the Colonialism.
A sign of Colonialism before and during Rukmani's early years of marriage is the idea of going from wealthy to poor. This means that when the British had colonized India, they had all the power to change economy,politics, and of course their social lifestyle. They were acting really complacent and inhumane towards the Indians. Unfortunately,the country that was colonized will be forced to live in a poor lifestyle, as for the colonizer, he will get all the money and become wealthy. This is the same thing that happened in the first part of Nectar in a Sieve.
2)“Don’t speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is a Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman” (Markandaya 4).
This shows that Colonialism had a negative impact towards the Indian people. Rukmani’s father is the headman of the village and so his wealth allowed Rukmani’s sisters to have huge and expensive weddings. Rukmani tells her mother that she would like "a grand wedding" because of her father’s social status and from the weddings that she had seen(4). Unfortunately, Rukmani’s oldest brother informs her that their father would not be known as a headman any longer because of the Collector. This is a bad influence on her father since it makes him look bad and unimportant. He used to be really powerful and all the people had counted on him, but leading onto the Britain colonizing the Indian Village, all of his reputation went down the drain. The Collector had taken over them and got all the power, which means that Rukmani's dream of a beautiful wedding would not come true. As I have mentioned in my first quote, people have went from being wealthy and rich to poor because of the Colonialism. It is really upsetting how Britain colonizes India since it doesn't even benefit the people. This is how the Colonialism had impacted the Indian village in a negative way.
I love it. Shows great context, explanation, connection to colonialism. What more can i say? :P
DeleteNawal,thank you so much! :)I was hoping for it to be good.Thank you.<3
DeleteAnytime Veronica! ;) It was great!!!
DeleteWhen Rukmani’s mother told her spouse( when he was trying to teach Rukmani how to write), "What use... that a girl should be learned! Much good will it do to her when she has lusty sons and a husband to look after" (Markandaya 16) it showed the contrast of the expectations between the genders. The British influence taught that women were to not be "learned" or mainly educated, influencing India negatively. Basically, the British thought that women were only good for housework and such. As Rukmani's mother says she couldn't spell her name, but her house was "clean and sweet" and her children were "well fed and cared for". The only responsibilities that a woman at this time had were to take care of the household making sure everything was neat and that the children were happy and fed. Women didn't need to be educated because their lives as housewives had already been decided for them-- it was only a matter of whom. The setting of "Nectar in a Sieve" was during the early 1900s, and around this time a few countries had already let go of this mindset that women were only destine to a domestic life. In fact, Germany allowed women to vote at 1918, and without British influence women probably would've gotten much farther with women's rights, acknowledgement and expectations.
ReplyDeleteRukmani often tried to comfort her mother kiddingly with her father’s position, but once her brother overheard her and harshly scolded her: ””For is my father not the head of the village?”...my eldest brother overheard me, and he said sharply, ”Don’t speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is a Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman” (8). The Collectors were also known as district collectors and the District Magistrate. Their job was to supervise all aspects of the district or village they were given to manage. This job was once that of the headman, who was previously in power. Like Rukmani’s father, they held great power. Unfortunately when British rule came, their power was stripped leaving them nothing but a title. The head man was “no longer of consequence”, only the Collector and those he appointed were relevant. It disrupted the former power.
Were we supposed to post in paragraph form? I did that too.
Delete"Not I. They had invaded our village with clatter and din, had taken from us the maidan where our children played, and had made bazaar prices too high for us. I was not sorry to see them go" (Markandaya 27).
ReplyDeleteThis is a clear representation as to how Colonialism had a negative impact towards not only Rukmani, but India as well. The invasion of the British brought upon heavy burdens to many people of India that are trying to support themselves and their families as well. Ever since the raise of prices made by the British towards crops and necessities such as sugar, dhal (Lentils, a common foodstuff in India),and ghee (Clarified butter made from the milk of a buffalo or cow, used in Indian cooking) it was hard for people to attain these basic household needs. This is a negative impact because it left many families with little or no source of food. In addition to raising prices, the British had stripped the children away from the meadow of which they had played in and built a building of which would later on be the workplace of Rukmani's son. This is negative because the British had transformed what used to be the playground of children, to a workplace for most of them.
'" Are you not glad that our village is no longer a clump of huts but a small town? Soon there will be shops and tea stalls, and even a bioscope..."' (Markandaya 29).
This is a clear representation of how Colonialism had a positive impact on India. This shows how Colonialism turned small villages in India to functioning towns where it is possible for small businesses to start. With that opportunity, there is a chance of employment for many people. Although this will not completely solve the problem of poverty, it is an effective way of addressing it,thus making it a positive impact towards the villages of India.
“Don’t speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to those villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman” (Markandaya 8)
ReplyDeleteRukmani, the youngest of four daughters, is revealed in chapter one to be marrying a poor tenant farmer. However, although she was happy with the arrangement, there were reasons behind why she was marrying the man that she was. This reason connects to the quote and politics within society. More specifically, Rukmani’s father was a "headman" in her village. However, this role within society became less significant, as an individual known as "the collector" began to change the subtleties of politics within the village. Connecting back to what was previously stated, Rukmani’s expectations for an acceptable arrangement of marriage to a young man, with satisfactory assets, faded, just as her father’s social ranking. This was because her parents could no longer afford a grand dowry. A grand dowry is money, which is given to the groom’s family by the bride’s family. All Rukmani’s parents could do, was marry her to a poor farmer. This is a sign of colonialism present before Rukmani’s marriage, which portrays British influence. Overall, the system of politics was being transformed due to British interference. This quote overall demonstrates the negative impacts that are accompanied by colonialism in such a way. For instance, due to the father’s diminishing social rank and status, he and his family had to adapt to a new lifestyle, in which they did not have as much money, and altered their plans for their future.
“He made our home himself, and I had felt only fear to live in it.” (Markandaya 12)
This quote corresponds to the effect of the Collector taking part in society, which also diminished the headman’s social rank. This effect was analyzed in the previous quote above. Rukmani was at first saddened by her new lifestyle. She was upset that she lived in a mud hut, after growing up in a completely different environment. Rukmani grew up in a higher class of society. Because she was arranged to marry a farmer, she now had to adapt to the new way of life that her husband was already used to. Colonialism had a role within this quote because of the establishment of the British transforming the politics of the village she lived in. Everything that happened in her village in terms of the political condition affected her life in the future. Although Rukmani was at first saddened, she began to appreciate what was handed to her as a result of colonialism. For example, she had a house, a husband who loved her and saw the beauty in her, in a way where no one else could. Rukmani’s new routine allows her to develop a new perspective on life. This is a positive aspect of colonialism because it overall benefitted Rukmani. It served as a life lesson, and became a value she cherished. Rukmani learned that she should not value materialistic things, and that she must appreciate what she has instead of dwelling in what is no longer in her life. Colonialism overall benefitted Rukmani by offering her an opportunity to develop a different perception on life itself.
' For is not my father head of the village?... My eldest brother over heard me, and he said sharply... There is the Collector... and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman.( Markandaya 8)
ReplyDeleteNegative signs of colonialism are present in Rukmani's life. When Rukmani's father was head of the villiage, his oldest daughter named Shanta had a grand wedding. Later on,the Collector was raised up the social hierarchy scale .Rukmani's father did not hold power anymore. The Father's finiancial status affected Rukmani .She could not have her grand wedding if her financial stability was lost. A higher class like the British officials,
' appoint' the villagers .Because the british officials are in charge,the villagers are forced to follow their rules.The villagers follow ideas other than their own; expressing colonization. Negative signs of colonialism are expressed because villagers have no say in what they want.This impacts villagers negatively.
' This mud hut, nothing but mud and thatch , was my home ( Markandaya 10).
Negative ideas of colonialism are presented in the story Nectar in a Sieve. Rukmani got married to a man named Nathan. After religious ceremonies, she left with her husband to their home that was many villages away. Nathan created the home all on his own. The mud hut was incomplete and did not meet Rukmani's expectations. It was unfinished with mud walls not more than a half foot high.She grew up as a child of wealth and financial stability.Because of this idea, 'mud and thatch' is not an ideal home.Nathan could not afford to have his house built for him, so he created it on his own. When the British took over, India became poor and living conditions worsened. As a result,Colonialism allowed India to live in poverty.Negative signs of colonialism created poor conditioned homes.
"Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman," (Markandaya 8).
ReplyDeleteKamala Markandaya introduces readers a part of Rukmani's, the main character, life as she speaks about Rukmani's husband and uses flashback to tell us more about her life. As Rukmani speaks about her father as the head of the village, her eldest brother sharply objects and says that the Collector is the one with all the power and that Rukmani's father would no longer obtain the power he once had. Since British people had colonized India, the act of placing the Collector with all power shows that Colonialism is being portrayed as a negative effect. Colonialism has negatively affected Rukmani because her father, the headman, has lost his prestige, reputation, amongst his villagers. Colonialism lead to an arrangement of power in terms of social hierarchy. This was resulted as Rukmani getting married to a tenant farmer instead of a rich husband like her sisters had been married to. Colonialism has impacted Rukmani negatively according to this quote.
"True, my husband did not own the land he tilled, as my father had done; yet the possibility was there that he might one day do so,"(Markandaya 13).
Rukmani, after having to realize that her father is no longer a headman with power and prestige, has departed with her husband who she married at the age of twelve. Rukmani's husband is a tenant farmer who doesn't have much to offer but his love and care(8). Rukmani was brought to a hut that her husband had built for her on his own with no one's help (12) after they arrived at his town. Colonialism has effected Rukmani in a positive way in this quote because it changed the way she thinks and feels about her current life. Rukmani changed from being horrified with the hut she had to live in to becoming more appreciative. The colonization of India from Britain has created the Collector with all power which had impacted Rukmani negatively. This negativity has droved her to a more positive side because Rukmani needed the change in social status of her father to experience living in a hut that's muddy to realize that she should be grateful for having a place to live (12). In this quote Rukmani shows the hope she now has inside of her which was all resulted from the changes from Colonialism.
In "Nectar In A Sieve" by Kamala Markandaya, colonialism has impacted the lifestyles of Rukmani and the people of her village in a negative way.
ReplyDelete"Not from our land," said Nathan.
"I tried not to show my pride. i tried to be offhand. i put the pumpkin away" (Markandaya 14)
Colonialism has affected Rukmani's life negatively. Her husband Nathan has never observed pumpkins in a such way that she has planted them. The people percieve things only in one way (they view it in comparison as the same), they have never experienced new things because their ways were the same. When Rukmani grew the pumpkin different her husband saw that there are many various ways in how a pumpkin can grow, and made Rukmani unique in her planting styles. This affects her life negatively because people will think she is weird because she does things in an unusual manner, and make it look like she is making fun of the way people do things normally. It will also make people laugh at her since she doesn't know the way people do things around her village, people will think she is a joke. Colonialism has affected Rukmani because she has planted a crop that is unusual to the neioghboring people of her village. Colonialism disrupted the advance of new crops making its way to their village which is why the people would find pumpkims weird as Nathan has stated. The thought of pumpkins growing on the land has never crossed his mind.
"A man is indeed fortunate if he does not marry above him, for if he does he gets a wife who is no help to him whatsoever, only an ornament" (Markandaya 14).
Colonialism has affected Rukmani's life negatively. Rukmani's husband, Nathan,is fortunate for having a wife like Rukmani. Nathan has married someone that is above him and he recieves her help everyday, but men who marry women above them don't recieve anything except a photographer that only stares. This effects Rukmani's life because since her staus level is above her husband she should not do anything, but since she is nice she is helping him plant in the farm which she is not suppose to. When Rukmani is helping her husband it makes her status level increase since she is not not doing anything and she is helping, she kind of looks like she is in the same status level as her husband.
Dear Lina,
ReplyDeleteYou do not need to cite in your analysis since your only explaining the quote which need to be cited only. I like how you connect colonialism to rukmani's family and get life!
I know i do not need to but on the safe side, why not? And thankyouu
Delete1. “They had invaded our village with clatter and din, had taken from us the maidan where our children played, and had made bazaar prices too high for us" (Markandaya 31).
ReplyDeleteThis shows colonialism had a negative impact on Indian culture because the British are changing how things work in Rukmani's community. For example, they raised the price of daily necessities during their stay in the village. This caused Rukmani and the community to be unable to feed their families. Rukmani's life was good, until the British came and changed everything. Another example is when the British took away the children's playground. They are taking away the children's happiness. In addition, they left right after they have accomplished their goal. The British are not taking responsibilities for the damage that they have left in Rukmani's village. This impacts Rukmani's village and the people living in it in a negative way.
2. “In her last months my father sent for a new doctor who had settled in the village. Nobody knew where he came from or who aid him, but there was, and people spoke well of him, though he was a foreigner... So it was in a house of sorrow that I first met Kennington, whom people called Kenny” (Markandaya 23).
This shows colonialism had a positive impact on Indian culture. Kenny will be able to aid and help the people in the village because he is a doctor. Especially since he is British, he will be able to offer many foreign medicines that could benefit the Indian culture. The Indians could learn from Kenny, a British doctor, and add new knowledge to their own culture. This impacts Indian culture in a positive way because they can gain knowledge on new medicines that they don't already have.
Sorry last sentence typo suppose to be her life instead of get life!
ReplyDeleteThis reply was for Lina! Sorry!
Delete"Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to those villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman" (Markandaya 8).
ReplyDeleteThis clearly shows that the colonialism had a negative impact to the people in the india village. In the village of India, the headman of the village is the highest in the social hierarchy. A headman is like the leader or chief of the village, so they have most control of everything. Now the headman no longer has power and authority in the village, because “there is the collector” (Markandaya 8). The collector is a person who comes by the village to check how the village is going and what is going on. Despite the fact that the headman knows more about the village runs and everything, the collector has more power than the headman. This is a negative impact because it shows how there is a social hierarchy made during the colonialism. Since the British had ruled over their land, the collector had more power than the headman of the village. Now the people in the village no longer view the headman of the village as a headman, because “the headman is no longer of consequence” (Markandaya 8). This shows how the impact of the colonialism was negative to the people in India.
"It was my husband who woke me- my husband, whom I will call here Nathan, for that was his name, although in all years of our marriage I never called him that, for it is not meet for a women to address her husband except as husband" ( Markandaya 10).
This shows that the colonialism had a negative impact to the people in the India village. Because the British had invaded India, they had changed their culture. Wives were not able to call their husbands by their names anymore because it was how the British address it in their own culture. This shows that the British had changed their culture.
1. "There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman" (Markandaya 4).
ReplyDeleteWhen Rukmani, the main character thought that her father was still the most powerful man in the village, her brother said she was foolish to think so. The quote above said by Rukmani's brother expressed the negative influence Colonialism in Rukmani's village. Colonialism caused the Indians to lose their wealth, because they lost their power to the British. The leader, or the "headman" of the village did not had a say in the matters of the village, the "Collector" did. The evidence was that the Indians had lost their wealth due to colonialism was that even the headman's daughter, Rukmani, could not have a fancy wedding.
2."It was my husband who woke me-my husband, whom I will call here Nathan, for that was his name, although in all the years of our marriage I never called him that, for it is not meet for a woman to address her husband except as "husband"(Markandaya 5).
Nathan is obviously a English name,not an Indian name. This showed Colonialism had a negative influence towards India. British Colonialism was breaking down Indian tradition in this case, because people had already begun using English names rather than traditional Indian names. Before the British came and colonized India, English names like “Nathan” was not in use. However, it was all changed after colonialism, that people no longer would take an Indian name. Once as a tradition to have a Indian name, now no longer one because of colonialism.
"Perhaps that was why they could not find me a rich husband, and married me to a tenant farmer who was poor in everything but in love and care for me, his wife, whom he took at the age of twelve" (Markandaya 8).
ReplyDeleteColonialism has impacted Rukmani in a negative way. When the British colonized India, Rukmani's father lost his power. It led Rukmani's father to be less important to the people in his village. This soon led to Rukmani marrying a tenant farmer, Nathan, at a young age. This shows that colonialism had impacted in a negative way because people who weren't wealthy weren't able to marry someone who was wealthy. No wealthy person who have wanted to marry someone with no power. Rukmani had no say to who she wanted to be married too. Therefore she was married to a poor farmer. People's lives had changed after colonialism.
"This mud hut, nothing but mud and thatch, was my home" (Markandaya 10).
This shows that colonialism impacted India in a negative way. Rukmani used to live in a wealthy family before India was colonized by the British. After colonialism, Rukmani married a poor farmer. She had to live under poor conditions and lived in a "mud hut" built by her husband. He tried to built it the best he could with the material he had available. She also needed to learn how to plant seeds, churn butter, etc. She lived a lavish lifestyle to living in poor condition. Colonialism have changed her life from good to bad.
"There is the collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman (Markandaya 8)."
ReplyDeleteThis shows colonialism impacting Rukmani's village in a negative way. Rukmani's father who is the headman of the village lost his power due to colonialism.Once the British colonialized India,the people lost respect to the headman and that respect transferred to the collector.Rukmani's brother proves this by telling Rukmani that the collector has the power.
"Perhaps that was why they could not find me a rich husband,and married me to a tenant farmer who was poor in everything but in love and care for me his wife,whom he took at the age of twelve (Markandaya 8)."
This quote shows colonialism affecting Rukmani negatively.Colonialism made her father become weak in power. Since her father is no longer the most respected,Rukmani can't have a rich husband.Her sisters which have been married before the British invasion were able to marry rich men because the father had power. Now after the invasion, Rukmani was forced to marry a poor farmer.
1) "Once when I repeated this, my eldest brother overheard me, and he said sharply,"Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of consequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not to the headman" (Markandaya 8).
ReplyDeleteThis shows that colonialism has a negative impact on India because of the way power is used. The Collector( a British man) has all the power and uses them towards the Indian villagers meanwhile the headman (an Indian) use to have the authority. This quote explains how the villagers are living in fear because of the British.
2) "I nodded; I wanted to cry.This mud hut, nothing but mud and thatch, was my home" (Markandaya 10).
This quote shows that the British had a negative impact on the Indian cultures and beliefs. Rukmani was shocked at the home and living conditions she had to live in. She was once living in a high social class life and now has to degrade down. This shows that the British's invasion impacted the lifestyle and conditions villagers had to face. Rukmani has to adjust into a lifestyle she was never use to in her life before.
"Don't speak like a fool, the headman is no longer of cosequence. There is the Collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is the power, and to those he appoints; not the headman" (Markandaya 8).
ReplyDeleteBefore the british took over the headman had most of the power but after, the Collector had the most power in the village. This has had a negative effect on the Indian villages because the people lost their power and it later on the main character's father couldn't get his daughters jewelry, which means he lost his wealthy with his power.
"It was my husband who woke me-my husband, whom I will call here Nathan, for that was his name, although in all years of our marriage I never called him that, for it is not meet for a women to address her husband except as 'husband'" ( Markandaya 10).
In the British culture they would adress their husbands as "husband" and when they invaded India, they started to make the Indian people do this as well. This has had a negative effect on the Indian people because it changed their cutlure and made it more into the British culture.
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ReplyDelete-"The headman is no longer of consequence. There is the collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is power, and to those he appoints not to headman"(Markandaya 8)
-"By the time i came to womanhood even I had to acknowledge that his prestige was much diminished. Perhaps that was why they could not find me a rich husband, and married me to a tenant farmer who was poor in everything but in love"(Markandaya 8)
The Colonization of India had many negative impacts to Rukmani's life. Rukmani was born to the headman of a village, also known as the chief of the village. The headman had a lot of power, he was able to marry his first three daughters to decent husbands. However over time, "The headman is no longer of consequence. There is the collector, who comes to these villages once a year, and to him is power, and to those he appoints not to headman"(Markandaya 8. The collectors, were the European men who came to collect taxes from the villagers. They had more power over them and over time, the headman lost his importance. This also affected Rukmani's marriage. Since Rukmani was the youngest of her siblings, she was the last to get married. She expected to be married to a wealthy man like her sisters however, "By the time i came to womanhood even I had to acknowledge that his prestige was much diminished. Perhaps that was why they could not find me a rich husband, and married me to a tenant farmer who was poor in everything but in love"(Markandaya 8). Since her father's title as headman was no longer important, he was unable to find a wealthy man for Rukmani and in turn, found a poor farmer to have her be married to. This is how the colonization of India affected Rukmani's life negatively.
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